Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Seyfried Have a Mean Girls Reunion

Excerpted from “MIAMI,” a storybook presented by Interview and AMI. Available exclusively at Art Basel Miami Beach.

As dizzying, mischievous, and glittery as a late-night joyride through Miami, Lindsay Lohan’s superstar career has always kept us guessing. She took a risk in the crowd-funded thriller The Canyons; was the subject of an Oprah Winfrey Network docuseries, Lindsay; starred in David Mamet’s Speed-the-Plow in London’s West End; and was once appointed the artistic director of French fashion house Emanuel Ungaro. She’s also opened her own Mykonos beach club, hosted the MTV Movie & TV Awards, and even had me thrown out of Manhattan hotspot Le Baron in 2012. (Legend!) Lohan moved to the United Arab Emirates in 2014 to protect her privacy; in the meantime, pop culture has truly missed her. Luckily, the former Disney child star has returned to our screens in the Netflix original Falling for Christmas. In a conversation with her Mean Girls costar Amanda Seyfried, the enigmatic LiLo spills on her new husband, her Housewives obsession, and returning to Hollywood on her own terms. -CAT MARNELL

AMANDA SEYFRIED: I’m an interviewer! [Laughs] How did the shoot go?

LINDSAY LOHAN: It was really fun. It was, like, ’80s-themed Miami.

SEYFRIED: Incredible. But you’re in New York?

LOHAN: Yeah, I’m in New York. [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: I’m upstate. It couldn’t be any different. I’m in fucking rural farmland. How long are you going to be there? Are you going to get a place?

LOHAN: Not right now. Whenever I come it’s for work, so I always take an extra week and a half, if I can, to just do family time.

SEYFRIED: That’s smart.

LOHAN: New York’s just so fast. It’s exhausting.

SEYFRIED: Yeah, but isn’t Dubai fast?

LOHAN: It is, but you can pick and choose.

SEYFRIED: I guess that’s like L.A.

LOHAN: I feel like it’s anywhere, it’s however you make it.

SEYFRIED: Especially during the pandemic.

LOHAN: I loved being stuck at home. [Laughs] I was like, can’t it always be like this?

SEYFRIED: I was like, “Nobody is expecting anything of me?” This job, it’s not just shooting, it’s press. And that’s what you’re doing right now, a massive press tour. First of all, I love this genre.

LOHAN: [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: I don’t understand why the Christmas movies have not come out yet, but we all know that Netflix makes better ones. Have you ever felt like, at the end of a movie, you’re not done yet?

LOHAN: Yeah. Especially when you shoot some of the Netflix movies. It’s six weeks, so it’s really quick, and by the end you’ve just come into the character.

SEYFRIED: I don’t know what the first day was like for you, but I’m always terrified.

LOHAN: I’m nervous the first day.

SEYFRIED: I don’t know how long it was since you were on a film set.

LOHAN: It was years.

SEYFRIED: So you must have felt that pressure times a thousand.

LOHAN: Yeah. You also have to get to re-know how everything works. And then it’s the little things, like that moment of, “Did I just blank out on everything?” [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: Do we all have impostor syndrome?

LOHAN: Maybe a little bit.

SEYFRIED: Maybe the reason that you and I still feel so insecure at the beginning of a movie is because we care.

LOHAN: Yeah. It’s that feeling of, is it ever the best that it can be? You want people on set to enjoy watching you do it. You want everyone to laugh or cry, and you want everyone to feel that emotion with you.

SEYFRIED: It’s that reaction from the director that you’re desperate for. So you got the script, and what happened?

LOHAN: I was like, “Oh, this is a fun, heartwarming movie.” I wanted to come back with something that every age range could watch. It had humor and sensitivity. And then while doing it, I was like, “I want there to be more physical comedy.” So we added some.

SEYFRIED: So you could pull some strings.

LOHAN: Yeah. Which is such a good feeling, because I never used to be able to do that. Even down to the editing process, I was able to have a say.

SEYFRIED: I don’t think most people understand how much of what we do is taken out of our hands. Unless you’re a producer.

LOHAN: Yeah, but if you really assert yourself and express your opinion it really works.

SEYFRIED: Especially now. We’re the same age. When we were working in our late teens, early twenties, nobody gave a shit what we thought.

LOHAN: Yeah.

SEYFRIED: It feels like things have changed. I don’t know if it’s because we’re older and people respect us more or because we’re asserting ourselves because we feel more comfortable, but I finally feel like I’m not a kid anymore.

LOHAN: That’s true, but I think people still see us as teenagers.

SEYFRIED: As Karen and Cady [their characters in Mean Girls].

LOHAN: [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: That was my first movie. You were in the middle of the whole thing and you created a really fun vibe. I didn’t know how good it was going to be.

LOHAN: I had a feeling, just because you don’t always have that much fun making movies and I knew it was going to show through. But I never realized what it would be, still today.

SEYFRIED: Ten years ago I used to be like, “Yeah, yeah, I was Karen in Mean Girls, for fuck’s sake.” Now I’m like, “I was Karen in Mean Girls!” I’m very proud of it. You had a lot to do with where it went and what it was. I don’t know if you know that. I’m sure you felt the pressure but it didn’t seem like you did. You were working really young, and you were really good, but you were still a kid. If you had kids and they were in your position, what would you do differently?

LOHAN: Oof.

SEYFRIED: What would you have changed?

LOHAN: I wouldn’t have moved to L.A. so quickly. It was a whole different world that I wasn’t prepared for at my age.

SEYFRIED: Yeah. People also take advantage when you’re really young. And the fame thing, I’ve never experienced that level of it.

LOHAN: It was such a different time then.

SEYFRIED: It was. No matter what, there are a lot of predators. But now the paparazzi are losing control.

LOHAN: Yeah. People have control over their own lives because of social media.

SEYFRIED: What would it have been like if we all had social media back then?

LOHAN: What would we have been like on social media? [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: Being young on Instagram is horrible. But I did the same thing when I was 18. I moved to L.A. as soon as we wrapped, because that’s what you do, right?

LOHAN: That’s what you think you’re supposed to.

SEYFRIED: And it turns out to be wrong in a lot of ways.

LOHAN: You grow up pretty quickly.

SEYFRIED: You have to. Okay, I need to know what music you’ve been listening to.

LOHAN: I listen to old mixes, like Fleetwood Mac and that kind of stuff. I’m really bad with finding new music these days. But I’m big on watching TV.

SEYFRIED: Exactly. That’s all I do. It’s fine, right?

LOHAN: It depends on what you’re watching. I can binge Housewives and Bachelor in Paradise.

SEYFRIED: If someone asked me to do a podcast about The Bachelor, I would, because that’s how big a fan I am. It’s crazy the things that we get sucked into.

LOHAN: It’s refreshing for us because it’s a way to zone out everything else and really not have to think.

SEYFRIED: I know. Where’s your husband right now?

LOHAN: He’s in New York.

SEYFRIED: Huuusband.

LOHAN: [Laughs]

SEYFRIED: How long has it been?

LOHAN: We’ve been married since April 2022.

SEYFRIED: Was it a big wedding?

LOHAN: No, it was just family.

SEYFRIED: And he’s with you in your hotel?

LOHAN: Yeah. It’s weird because traveling for movies and stuff, I’m a very attached type of person so I don’t like to do everything alone. I’m always like, “Can you please come?”

SEYFRIED: Of course.

LOHAN: How do you do that with your kids?

SEYFRIED: It’s a logistical nightmare. I just don’t want to work as much as I used to. I don’t want to leave them, but also bringing them with me is such a thing. My son’s only two, so it’s too much to bring him places. What are you going to do next?

LOHAN: I’m debating whether to start another movie at the beginning of the year. I want to produce, too, and direct something that I’m not necessarily in. I feel like because I’ve experienced being on set so much and know so much about how everything works, I want to try it from behind the camera.

SEYFRIED: Are you going to shadow people?

LOHAN: I feel like I do that already. I’m like, “Maybe we should shoot it like this.”

SEYFRIED: [Laughs]

LOHAN: Then sometimes I’m like, “I probably shouldn’t say that. It’s not really my place.” [Laughs] I don’t know if it’s like this for you, but when I read the script, I already envision the scenes. I have an expectation of what it should be.

SEYFRIED: Right. And then you get on set and sometimes it’s a really nice surprise and sometimes it’s awful because it isn’t the way it looked in your head. We have good imaginations, considering we’re actors.

LOHAN: Yeah.

SEYFRIED: I know this sounds ridiculous, but do you think, because you’ve had so many years off, that you’ve banked chilltime where you can now just go, go, go?

LOHAN: A little bit, but I also need that time in between. I want to do a few fun things, and then I want to do some more serious things. And I want to have kids.

SEYFRIED: You do?

LOHAN: Yeah. So that’s another thing. [Laughs]