Kim Kardashian said that her best piece of advice for women in business was to “get your ҒUCҜing ᴀss up and work.”

The reality TV-famous sisters — Kim, Khloé, and Kourtney Kardashian and Kendall and Kylie Jenner — all have personal businesses of their own, ranging from Kim’s Skims loungewear lines to Kourtney’s Poosh lifestyle brand to Kylie Cosmetics. That’s in addition to the family brand crafted by “momager” Kris Jenner.

In a new interview with Variety published Wednesday, Kim, Khloé, Kourtney, and Kris spoke about their businesses, and shared advice for other women in business.

“It seems like nobody wants to work these days,” Kim said. “You have to surround yourself with people that wanna work. Have a good work environment where everyone loves what they do, because you have one life. No toxic work environments, and show up and do the work.”

Khloé said that success is tied to pursuing “what you’re actually pᴀssionate about,” saying that success doesn’t come easy.

“If you’re the smartest person in that room, you gotta go to another room,” Khloé said. “I want to be around really successful people, because that’s gonna drive me to be successful. A lot of people get intimidated to be in a room full of smart thinkers, wealthy people, whatever it is — I wanna be in that room.”

Kim and her siblings have fielded criticism in the past when they’ve been described as having “self-made” wealth, as Kylie famously was in a 2018 Forbes list. In a 2018 interview with Refinery29, Kim pushed back on the criticism of Kylie’s self-made designation.

“I really didn’t get it, because she is ‘self-made’ — we are all ‘self-made,’” Kim said. “What, because we came from a family that has had success? To me, that doesn’t really make sense… I know so many people like that [who] haven’t turned out to be as successful as Kylie.”

She preempted that kind of criticism as well in the family’s new interview with Variety, pushing back on the notion that she’s famous simply for her celebrity.

“Who gives a ҒUCҜ. We focus on the positive. We work our ᴀsses off. If that’s what you think, then sorry. We just don’t have the energy for that,” Kardashian said.